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The RTM homepage is http://rtm.rubyforge.org/<BR/><BR/>I invite you to give RTM a try - feedback is very welcome!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19313663.post-83765414969931572592008-04-06T19:25:00.000+02:002008-04-06T19:25:00.000+02:00It's absolutely easier to _say_ it than to _do_ it...It's absolutely easier to _say_ it than to _do_ it. But nevertheless we have to discuss strategies for moving TM to the next level.<BR/><BR/>The ZTM initiative looks promising.Svein Øhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597512401374650610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19313663.post-80003423790928876412008-04-06T15:41:00.000+02:002008-04-06T15:41:00.000+02:00These are all interesting thoughts, and you are ab...These are all interesting thoughts, and you are absolutely right in that it ought to be easier for people to start using topic maps (driven applications) -- without having extensive knowledge of the technology. <BR/><BR/>Most existing applications are more or less expert systems. They are great at what they do, but what we need is user friendly open source applications that go beyond tm parsing / TMAPI support and ontology editing. <BR/><BR/>It is, however, and unfortunately, easier to say this than to actually make it happen. I've often caught myself wanting to do more, only to find myself doing whatever other things people do during their spare time (I hope to improve, though :D).<BR/><BR/>As for ZTM, I believe that there will be a shift in how it is handled by Bouvet. According to Arnar Lundesgaard (lead dev.), who held a ZTM3 presentation during the TM2008 tutorial day (<A HREF="http://www.topicobserver.com/blog/tm/2008/topic-maps-2008-tutorial-day/" REL="nofollow">my notes</A>), the developers are aiming for a much more community driven approach than was the case with ZTM2. <BR/><BR/>After all, Bouvet is a consultancy firm and if all work is to be done by Bouvet, someone will, quite naturally, have to pay up. The development of ZTM3 is supported by both the University of Bergen and Bouvet, but it is up to the community to move things forward once ZTM3 has been released (the source code is already <A HREF="http://emnekart.bouvet.no/ztm3/" REL="nofollow">available online</A>). <BR/><BR/>As for other open source CMSes, I know that Sam Hunting (<A HREF="http://www.universalpantograph.com/blog/shunting" REL="nofollow">blog</A>) is working on a TM module for Drupal.<BR/><BR/>I didn't have time to attend the panel discussion at the end of TM 2008, but like the idea of marketing under a different name as people tend to be confused by the term "maps". Perhaps part of the need for explanation would go away if the technology was being marketed under a different name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com